This column will focus mainly on bracketing and its application. Whilst I will relate it to our subbing processes you could use it for absolutely anything. It helps in any situation where you will have a number of people working on making edits and doing work to any common document. It is said that this form of noting and editing is used by the UN when working on documents.
It does not require any fancy applications nor does it really matter what you are accessing the document from. I first stumbled upon it whilst reading an article about it on Lifehacker. They linked to an article on Humanized that focused on it and just due to how simple but effective it was, I decided to try and get this used.
Now at first glance it may actually seem more complicated. You see a load of brackets all over the place and things inserted which make no sense. The beauty of it is that whilst it looks so, in reality it takes a few minutes to learn the idea/formula behind it and to start using it (as I found out when I linked Yume to the article). The articles I've linked to already do a really good job of explaining it all but I will run through one quick example from Okusama wa Majo and just talk about the process and how we used it.
So if we look at the whole process with a quick and simple example:
"Is she a rich families daughter?"
I took that line and came up with the following:
Is she a rich famil[ies][y's][] daughter?[][][Is she the daughter of a rich family?]
So our first bracket denotes something for deletion, the second bracket is for additions and the third is for comments.
So I wanted the "ies" part deleted, I wanted "y's" added in its place. There is no comment directly after the change but it is noted at the end (reason for this is below). The comment here is an alternative suggestion but it also serves as a clarification of the line. In some cases, you'll get a detailed explanation of something troubling you about a line and other times it's a quick note to clear things up (just so you know the train of thought at the time of suggestion). It really is as quick and simple as that.
A quick reason why, due to this being a fansub, things are broken line by line, Yume felt it would be easier for him to have comments right at the end of lines than in the middle. Otherwise in a document, that comment would be in that first set of brackets and the second set would not exist. The beauty is we were able to agree on this due to the nature of work and knowing the original rules but you can tailor it quickly and easily to your own needs.
In the past, Yume would have his file all sorted and send me a copy. I would then look at things and note them in a separate file and we would then discuss it later on for him to implement. This was a rather roundabout way of doing things and it was not the best thing to do in reality but it seemed the only way due to the control he likes over the scripts. Just due to how unwieldy it could get I refrained from making marks on his script, we'd just meet and discuss what I had done but things would have changed all over again and some of my notes would be out of date due to him correcting things or changing lines.
It's not a great way of doing things but we didn't know of much better ways. We took the script as being that and changes would be made by him as it was his script, I'd just note things and comment on those over IM.
The errors that we have noted in some of our earlier work has been due in large to this process. We'd work from separate scripts without really knowing easily what had been changed, how it had been changed and sometimes why such a change had been made. This confusion lead to some anger, confusion and disgust at what we were working on.
I think it was the lack of standard ways that caused us to follow such bizarre methods. We needed something that would always be drilled into us as to how to handle. I'm a little surprised at how we stuck with our original plan and would most likely still be working to that had we not stumbled on this. It seems so simple to implement but we were just travelling along blissfully unaware at how inefficient it all was. This may be something others have used for ages but with us starting from the beginning with no real experience on how others do things or see an insight into how they operate, it was quite a discovery and came at exactly the right time.
The joy of using this system was how much or little information we could place in each note but still have it followed easily. The original will still be there, the edits will co-exist in the original sentence and you can add in notes to explain how you feel or think about something. If I then ship this over to anyone else, they can cross-reference if they have worked on their own copy or they can continue to work on in the same file or just merge things to create a consolidated file.
It's a great little system that can be scaled for more people to use all at once or just used solely to track changes in any work you're doing. It lends itself amazingly well to fansubbing, probably more so than regular documents.
A little note, in the article I linked to on Humanize, there are some tools that will automatically purge brackets from your script/document and replace things as suggested i.e. if you have something that should be deleted it will do so and it will place any additions in as well. Can be handy for cleaning things up quickly without having to do each thing by manually.
Sunday, October 29, 2006
Saturday, October 28, 2006
Niji
This could turn out to be problematic for some people but I'm not going to try to pull any punches. I'm just stating things as I've seen and experienced them. This, more than any other article so far, will jump around and will be a mess so bear with me.
Something that has long troubled me when it comes to fansubbing is the seeming ease at which fights break out and groups lose members. With the way tensions and stress rise when people are subbing, it's granted you will have some trouble but nothing that could not be overcome. It seems there are only a few reasons as to why things come to a head.
With Okusama, we've had our fair share of problems and we've had people who have not quite managed to do their roles, myself included. I'll draw on a few examples here and outline the problems faced. It should sound similar to other situations you may have heard about at other groups. I'll start with something very common and easy to outline.
When we started on the QC process for the first episode of Okusama, it was initially going to be handed out to someone else to do. I was quite busy and I didn't feel as if I could do things as quickly as Yume wanted. It was passed over to someone experienced and who we'd hoped would join our team. Unfortunately, he fell ill and so he could not go ahead as we had all hoped.
Through no real fault of anyone, other commitments or situations arose that forced stalling on the work. It can be very irritating but cannot be helped.
What could have made this worse is if there was no communication between people when you were being relied on. I told him in advance I could not do it so he was able to make other arrangements. He was informed of the other person being ill so again he was able to rationalise it and try alternatives. If there was no word from either of us, it'd have certainly led to something more. Worst thing you can do is leave someone hanging.
Communication needs to be paramount and with the many ways we have to get messages through, it should not be too much of a problem to get on for 5 minutes to do that. It might be something big like passing on incomplete work just so others can get a feel of what is done. It might be something small like just acknowledging you are working on things but you need to let others know of circumstances. This works both ways and understanding plays a big role which I will touch on later in the article.
So let's go and think further and come to what I think I would call a gulf in expectations. I do see this as being a major part of any tensions that arise. Everyone will have different expectations on all aspects of the work.
A typical example: Yume would hand me a script which I would work on. He'd feel I was going to slow and I'd feel that I didn't want to rush and compromise what I was doing.
He wanted something done quick (I'll try and explain his reasoning in a moment) and I wanted something done as best as I could, if it meant taking a little longer then so be it. The gulf here would be the time taken; from his point of view, my taking too long and from my point of view, him rushing me to deliver.
I personally think that Yume does things in far too concentrated periods. He'll have things to do with the subs and he'll cram in as much as possible into every single moment of time he has. It is tough for him to step away from it due to an all or nothing approach. This approach is something he expects of everyone else, he wants people to put in the same amount of time in with the same dedication.
I share some of his ideas. I think we should be dedicated and strive for perfection as best as we can. However that is about as far as it goes. I am easier when it comes to time put in. When I have something to do with the script, I'll give it as much time as I can, this means I'll organise time I've put aside for whatever else I'd like to do in my spare time. Yet I'm not able to break everything and just go solely into fansub mode from after work until I go to bed. I feel as if it would compromise the quality of work and end up with going from a fun hobby to despised work.
I think as usual, a healthy place to be and where we try and meet, is somewhere between both viewpoints. You need to break away and give more time to the whole process and that means stopping other things temporarily to get things out.
I think there needs to be more structure within the way things work. The structure should set out a loose time frame so you don't lose track of the goal but it cannot be strict or precise as that will not be able to factor in loops thrown up by the episode or other extraneous circumstances. I think this follows into what else can cause unnecessary pressure or stress on people. The time groups believe should be the turn around time.
When you have an anime, I don't doubt that times should be shorter. There is less dialogue to contend with and usually it is very straightforward. Still turn around times of a couple days does lead me to question things, more of which I will touch upon in another article. The thing is, if you are working to very tight deadlines, even a minor problem can turn out to be catastropic.
I cannot remember which group it was but they had a process where they would translate and release a show within a day or two of its airing on Japanese TV. Now their translator had some other commitments which meant that they would not be able to keep upto the schedule. This lead to some outburst on their website which read quite badly on all parties involved. Something that probably should have been sorted behind closed doors was made the domain of all. Again, fall was laid squarely at the translators feet and the translator was shunned.
I think the translator was at fault for not communicating things however, the way the group handled it led to what was a ridiculous situation. A simple note saying an episode was delayed for two days due to some vague but understandable reason would have held things over. Yet it seems that just because they felt that the demanding and strict time frame should hold for all situations, they had to go about vilifying someone. It was not nice to read and it does go about lower the regard you hold for that group.
So jumping on now, I'll now say a bit on understanding in groups. Some people are really, really bad when it comes to empathy. Like communicating, it applies to all, from the person who is running and heading up the project to the person requiring understanding on an unexpected situation. Being able to be flexible in your approach and being able to admit faults or mistakes.
Yume and I do this all the time and it helps us take those lessons and move on, hopefully implementing better practices in future. It's the reason why I rant on these entries. Along the way I'll be changing my mind and I'm hoping this charts and traces my progression of thought and gives me a chance to go back again at a later date and know all of what I was thinking at the time. It is messy to read but maybe more useful for it.
With the whole part of being empathetic, you may need to upset people but I'd rather upset a whole load of people if it meant looking after the people who are most important. In this case, I'd rather disappoint people wanting to see the next episode, if it means that the group stays happy and are able to continue working along and producing quality.
I try not to name particular individualsor groups but I have to highlight Nanashi here. They are a group which didn't bow to all the pressure placed on them from various sources. It could have been easy to buckle and play to what people were demanding or place blame somewhere but they stuck fast and did as they saw best. There are quite a few other groups out there that have done similar but with the level of regard I hold for the actual show and the quality that they have shown, I'm mentioning them.
With this first episode of Okusama, Yume and I got angry at each other, very angry at times. However, we still could put things to one side and joke about even if it did take a little while to cool off. Why we even pranked a friend about a proposed falling out due to our website being offline (due to our host having server problems rather than anything else). I think he may still believe we fell out.
Still it just shows you need to remember you are dealing with a person, a friend and as long as you are getting work done (and not excuses time and time and time again with nothing to show) you have to contend with it. I see people lacking this ability to distinguish the work given and problems that come from that and the problems that arise from just a person not doing what they said.
Over the course of working with Yume on the Committee, we've tried and tested out a number of translators. For one reason or another they've not been able to commit as much time as is needed and we understand that, we have trouble ourselves in this regard. Others who've wanted to go ahead and do something with a script, that's where we've seen some problems that cross over.
As I said, we all understand we get unexpected events occur so we can factor that in when communicated. I guess the worst scenario you can have is when someone keeps promising you something but fails to deliver on repeated occasions. This leads to doubts about a person. Things are further compounded when questions about seeing current work-in-progress are also shrugged off. Has the person actually done the work? Is this just a ruse to cover their laziness? In this instance I'll say fair enough, go and have a right old barney with that person (if you can get ahold of them).
Until then, just keep your wits about you and realise that the person on your team is the one who should be defended. If they make a mistake then chastise them but be understanding. In the face of pressure from the outside, show a firm face externally, even if chaos ensues inside.
Something that has long troubled me when it comes to fansubbing is the seeming ease at which fights break out and groups lose members. With the way tensions and stress rise when people are subbing, it's granted you will have some trouble but nothing that could not be overcome. It seems there are only a few reasons as to why things come to a head.
With Okusama, we've had our fair share of problems and we've had people who have not quite managed to do their roles, myself included. I'll draw on a few examples here and outline the problems faced. It should sound similar to other situations you may have heard about at other groups. I'll start with something very common and easy to outline.
When we started on the QC process for the first episode of Okusama, it was initially going to be handed out to someone else to do. I was quite busy and I didn't feel as if I could do things as quickly as Yume wanted. It was passed over to someone experienced and who we'd hoped would join our team. Unfortunately, he fell ill and so he could not go ahead as we had all hoped.
Through no real fault of anyone, other commitments or situations arose that forced stalling on the work. It can be very irritating but cannot be helped.
What could have made this worse is if there was no communication between people when you were being relied on. I told him in advance I could not do it so he was able to make other arrangements. He was informed of the other person being ill so again he was able to rationalise it and try alternatives. If there was no word from either of us, it'd have certainly led to something more. Worst thing you can do is leave someone hanging.
Communication needs to be paramount and with the many ways we have to get messages through, it should not be too much of a problem to get on for 5 minutes to do that. It might be something big like passing on incomplete work just so others can get a feel of what is done. It might be something small like just acknowledging you are working on things but you need to let others know of circumstances. This works both ways and understanding plays a big role which I will touch on later in the article.
So let's go and think further and come to what I think I would call a gulf in expectations. I do see this as being a major part of any tensions that arise. Everyone will have different expectations on all aspects of the work.
A typical example: Yume would hand me a script which I would work on. He'd feel I was going to slow and I'd feel that I didn't want to rush and compromise what I was doing.
He wanted something done quick (I'll try and explain his reasoning in a moment) and I wanted something done as best as I could, if it meant taking a little longer then so be it. The gulf here would be the time taken; from his point of view, my taking too long and from my point of view, him rushing me to deliver.
I personally think that Yume does things in far too concentrated periods. He'll have things to do with the subs and he'll cram in as much as possible into every single moment of time he has. It is tough for him to step away from it due to an all or nothing approach. This approach is something he expects of everyone else, he wants people to put in the same amount of time in with the same dedication.
I share some of his ideas. I think we should be dedicated and strive for perfection as best as we can. However that is about as far as it goes. I am easier when it comes to time put in. When I have something to do with the script, I'll give it as much time as I can, this means I'll organise time I've put aside for whatever else I'd like to do in my spare time. Yet I'm not able to break everything and just go solely into fansub mode from after work until I go to bed. I feel as if it would compromise the quality of work and end up with going from a fun hobby to despised work.
I think as usual, a healthy place to be and where we try and meet, is somewhere between both viewpoints. You need to break away and give more time to the whole process and that means stopping other things temporarily to get things out.
I think there needs to be more structure within the way things work. The structure should set out a loose time frame so you don't lose track of the goal but it cannot be strict or precise as that will not be able to factor in loops thrown up by the episode or other extraneous circumstances. I think this follows into what else can cause unnecessary pressure or stress on people. The time groups believe should be the turn around time.
When you have an anime, I don't doubt that times should be shorter. There is less dialogue to contend with and usually it is very straightforward. Still turn around times of a couple days does lead me to question things, more of which I will touch upon in another article. The thing is, if you are working to very tight deadlines, even a minor problem can turn out to be catastropic.
I cannot remember which group it was but they had a process where they would translate and release a show within a day or two of its airing on Japanese TV. Now their translator had some other commitments which meant that they would not be able to keep upto the schedule. This lead to some outburst on their website which read quite badly on all parties involved. Something that probably should have been sorted behind closed doors was made the domain of all. Again, fall was laid squarely at the translators feet and the translator was shunned.
I think the translator was at fault for not communicating things however, the way the group handled it led to what was a ridiculous situation. A simple note saying an episode was delayed for two days due to some vague but understandable reason would have held things over. Yet it seems that just because they felt that the demanding and strict time frame should hold for all situations, they had to go about vilifying someone. It was not nice to read and it does go about lower the regard you hold for that group.
So jumping on now, I'll now say a bit on understanding in groups. Some people are really, really bad when it comes to empathy. Like communicating, it applies to all, from the person who is running and heading up the project to the person requiring understanding on an unexpected situation. Being able to be flexible in your approach and being able to admit faults or mistakes.
Yume and I do this all the time and it helps us take those lessons and move on, hopefully implementing better practices in future. It's the reason why I rant on these entries. Along the way I'll be changing my mind and I'm hoping this charts and traces my progression of thought and gives me a chance to go back again at a later date and know all of what I was thinking at the time. It is messy to read but maybe more useful for it.
With the whole part of being empathetic, you may need to upset people but I'd rather upset a whole load of people if it meant looking after the people who are most important. In this case, I'd rather disappoint people wanting to see the next episode, if it means that the group stays happy and are able to continue working along and producing quality.
I try not to name particular individualsor groups but I have to highlight Nanashi here. They are a group which didn't bow to all the pressure placed on them from various sources. It could have been easy to buckle and play to what people were demanding or place blame somewhere but they stuck fast and did as they saw best. There are quite a few other groups out there that have done similar but with the level of regard I hold for the actual show and the quality that they have shown, I'm mentioning them.
With this first episode of Okusama, Yume and I got angry at each other, very angry at times. However, we still could put things to one side and joke about even if it did take a little while to cool off. Why we even pranked a friend about a proposed falling out due to our website being offline (due to our host having server problems rather than anything else). I think he may still believe we fell out.
Still it just shows you need to remember you are dealing with a person, a friend and as long as you are getting work done (and not excuses time and time and time again with nothing to show) you have to contend with it. I see people lacking this ability to distinguish the work given and problems that come from that and the problems that arise from just a person not doing what they said.
Over the course of working with Yume on the Committee, we've tried and tested out a number of translators. For one reason or another they've not been able to commit as much time as is needed and we understand that, we have trouble ourselves in this regard. Others who've wanted to go ahead and do something with a script, that's where we've seen some problems that cross over.
As I said, we all understand we get unexpected events occur so we can factor that in when communicated. I guess the worst scenario you can have is when someone keeps promising you something but fails to deliver on repeated occasions. This leads to doubts about a person. Things are further compounded when questions about seeing current work-in-progress are also shrugged off. Has the person actually done the work? Is this just a ruse to cover their laziness? In this instance I'll say fair enough, go and have a right old barney with that person (if you can get ahold of them).
Until then, just keep your wits about you and realise that the person on your team is the one who should be defended. If they make a mistake then chastise them but be understanding. In the face of pressure from the outside, show a firm face externally, even if chaos ensues inside.
Monday, May 22, 2006
Bolero of Fire
Wow. As someone who has never really liked any of the Playstations and as someone tired of the constant marketing smoke and puff propogated by Sony, it's quite odd to see the current outcry against them.
I've accepted that there are many fans of the Playstation out there and I can appreciate that there have been some good games on the two iterations of consoles so far. So when E3 came and went it was like a huge shock to me. It seems to me that whilst I thought people were continually lapping up whatever Sony spouted, it seems there were quite a lot of people who took note of the hyping and failings of Sony.
I'm sure there are quite a lot of Sony fanboys still out there vehemently believing that Sony have done nothing wrong so far and that believe the PS3 is a cheap machine. However, there is a large voice amongst those frequenting various forums and blogs (be they about games or otherwise). It is great to see that people are questioning Sony's decisions right now and aren't just going nuts about the machine.
I still think the PS3 will still sell a lot of consoles (no doubt all of Japan will buy it regardless) but it is nice to see that Sony may not run away with it. Why it is even nice that people are questioning the PSP instead of continually glossing over all the problems with the system just because it looks nice.
Where are we headed with this whole thing? There are some people already sick and tired of the bashing Sony has received. It seems a lot of people have jumped aboard the bandwagon and it makes it odd now that my dissenting voice is now being mixed with people who are here just because bashing Sony seems the current thing to do. It happens a lot when things become popular, there is the inevitable backlash but is this necessarily the thoughts of a lot of the general gamers?
Unfortunately not. As I mentioned before, Japan will buy the thing regardless, whether or not it is the lamest console ever made. The FF fanboys will also buy it, in hopes there is a FF7 remake (and FF13). It is the people who are there keeping FIFA, Madden and GTA at the top of the charts who need to be gauged to get a real idea of the whole picture. It seems to me that they couldn't care less. Whilst there is loads said about the lack of ports as Sony had promised, or the removal of key features from the cheaper model, it won't factor, unfortunately.
So what am I basically saying here? The PS3 is a big mess and it is more Sony hype that won't ever be fulfilled. Despite that, people will go ahead and plough blindly into purchasing one. We can rejoice right now, those who have long had an agenda against Sony but it is a shortlived affair. So make the most of it, go bash as much and as freely as you can now, before all the bandwagon jumpers leave us and run once more back to Sony.
I've accepted that there are many fans of the Playstation out there and I can appreciate that there have been some good games on the two iterations of consoles so far. So when E3 came and went it was like a huge shock to me. It seems to me that whilst I thought people were continually lapping up whatever Sony spouted, it seems there were quite a lot of people who took note of the hyping and failings of Sony.
I'm sure there are quite a lot of Sony fanboys still out there vehemently believing that Sony have done nothing wrong so far and that believe the PS3 is a cheap machine. However, there is a large voice amongst those frequenting various forums and blogs (be they about games or otherwise). It is great to see that people are questioning Sony's decisions right now and aren't just going nuts about the machine.
I still think the PS3 will still sell a lot of consoles (no doubt all of Japan will buy it regardless) but it is nice to see that Sony may not run away with it. Why it is even nice that people are questioning the PSP instead of continually glossing over all the problems with the system just because it looks nice.
Where are we headed with this whole thing? There are some people already sick and tired of the bashing Sony has received. It seems a lot of people have jumped aboard the bandwagon and it makes it odd now that my dissenting voice is now being mixed with people who are here just because bashing Sony seems the current thing to do. It happens a lot when things become popular, there is the inevitable backlash but is this necessarily the thoughts of a lot of the general gamers?
Unfortunately not. As I mentioned before, Japan will buy the thing regardless, whether or not it is the lamest console ever made. The FF fanboys will also buy it, in hopes there is a FF7 remake (and FF13). It is the people who are there keeping FIFA, Madden and GTA at the top of the charts who need to be gauged to get a real idea of the whole picture. It seems to me that they couldn't care less. Whilst there is loads said about the lack of ports as Sony had promised, or the removal of key features from the cheaper model, it won't factor, unfortunately.
So what am I basically saying here? The PS3 is a big mess and it is more Sony hype that won't ever be fulfilled. Despite that, people will go ahead and plough blindly into purchasing one. We can rejoice right now, those who have long had an agenda against Sony but it is a shortlived affair. So make the most of it, go bash as much and as freely as you can now, before all the bandwagon jumpers leave us and run once more back to Sony.
Saturday, May 13, 2006
Tei! Tei! Tei!
With my last piece being lost, here is a rewritten article about timing and its relation in fansubbing.
The role of a timer in the grand scheme of things is one I feel is quite overrated. I've gone about doing it and it's a tedious job to do but it is by no means the toughest or most difficult job, which I feel a lot of people out there in fansubbing land portray it to be. I'll say it again, I believe the role of translating is by far the toughest job when it comes to fansubbing and timing doesn't come close. I'm not sure any roles do.
When it comes to timing, I think it is worth noting that there are some distinctions to be made within the role. Broadly speaking you have timing relating to karaoke and then timing relating to the actual show itself. Out of these two, the job of the karaoke timer is far more boring.
The one timing the show has it easy, mark the point at where a sentence begins and then again where it ends. If two people are talking over each other then you'll have to make allowances for that but it's not too tough or difficult to do. When it comes to the person timing the karaoke, it can be a real nightmare. You have to do the above, which is straightforward but then you need to go into timing each and every syllable. So you'll be playing the same bit of sound back and forth ensuring you get it spot on within fractions of a second.
Now this is not really tough but, as I have said, very boring and tedious. I suppose you can say it is tough as you need to keep your discipline throughout. That said on both occasions you are clear when something is right or wrong. There is nothing left to interpretation, it's quite cut and dried. That means you don't need to invest yourself into it a great deal. A translator, on the other hand, will have to deal with possible variations or meanings of words and sentences. It's all a judgement call and requires an understanding of the show and characters to get it just right. I've seen it with Yume translating something, he may come to me and ask for help and we'll throw about suggestions and ideas for an age ensuring we make sense in English but keep as true to the Japanese as possible. Trying to strike the best balance.
Coming back to timing, Yume and I have used Sabbu to get timings and to ensure they are as precise as possible (this is a great deal more important for karaoke as the effects are dependent on you doing a good job here). I have read some timers saying they sit there with the show running on VLC or Winamp and just jot down the times and that's about it. I mean it really is as simple as that, so why do people feel the need to say that timing is so hard or tough? With karaoke timing, I will agree the job is harder and tougher than timing the show but again it's not too much more involving or requiring a great deal of understanding of characters and their intent.
So what am I saying? Basically I just want translators to get a bit more due than they seem to be given in fansubbing circles. I've seen some translators unfairly given very bad treatment and placed under great stress (this is something I will touch on in my next fansub related piece). I've seen timers, encoders and all sorts get so much praise and told how tough their jobs are but in reality it's very simple. It could very well be due to the other jobs being filled out by group owners with translators being hired hands, so they need to feel in control and in charge of things by saying the have a tough role to do.
These types of roles need to be done and it is important, no doubt about it, but come on be realistic about things. What would be nice is if people really didn't need to go on about what job is toughest and feel the need to boost their worth over what it is. It'd sure save me from rambling and ranting.
The role of a timer in the grand scheme of things is one I feel is quite overrated. I've gone about doing it and it's a tedious job to do but it is by no means the toughest or most difficult job, which I feel a lot of people out there in fansubbing land portray it to be. I'll say it again, I believe the role of translating is by far the toughest job when it comes to fansubbing and timing doesn't come close. I'm not sure any roles do.
When it comes to timing, I think it is worth noting that there are some distinctions to be made within the role. Broadly speaking you have timing relating to karaoke and then timing relating to the actual show itself. Out of these two, the job of the karaoke timer is far more boring.
The one timing the show has it easy, mark the point at where a sentence begins and then again where it ends. If two people are talking over each other then you'll have to make allowances for that but it's not too tough or difficult to do. When it comes to the person timing the karaoke, it can be a real nightmare. You have to do the above, which is straightforward but then you need to go into timing each and every syllable. So you'll be playing the same bit of sound back and forth ensuring you get it spot on within fractions of a second.
Now this is not really tough but, as I have said, very boring and tedious. I suppose you can say it is tough as you need to keep your discipline throughout. That said on both occasions you are clear when something is right or wrong. There is nothing left to interpretation, it's quite cut and dried. That means you don't need to invest yourself into it a great deal. A translator, on the other hand, will have to deal with possible variations or meanings of words and sentences. It's all a judgement call and requires an understanding of the show and characters to get it just right. I've seen it with Yume translating something, he may come to me and ask for help and we'll throw about suggestions and ideas for an age ensuring we make sense in English but keep as true to the Japanese as possible. Trying to strike the best balance.
Coming back to timing, Yume and I have used Sabbu to get timings and to ensure they are as precise as possible (this is a great deal more important for karaoke as the effects are dependent on you doing a good job here). I have read some timers saying they sit there with the show running on VLC or Winamp and just jot down the times and that's about it. I mean it really is as simple as that, so why do people feel the need to say that timing is so hard or tough? With karaoke timing, I will agree the job is harder and tougher than timing the show but again it's not too much more involving or requiring a great deal of understanding of characters and their intent.
So what am I saying? Basically I just want translators to get a bit more due than they seem to be given in fansubbing circles. I've seen some translators unfairly given very bad treatment and placed under great stress (this is something I will touch on in my next fansub related piece). I've seen timers, encoders and all sorts get so much praise and told how tough their jobs are but in reality it's very simple. It could very well be due to the other jobs being filled out by group owners with translators being hired hands, so they need to feel in control and in charge of things by saying the have a tough role to do.
These types of roles need to be done and it is important, no doubt about it, but come on be realistic about things. What would be nice is if people really didn't need to go on about what job is toughest and feel the need to boost their worth over what it is. It'd sure save me from rambling and ranting.
Wednesday, May 10, 2006
Lookin' Lookin' Gaa
Microsoft's press conference was quite a surprise. Having seen Sony make a huge blunder and NCL give a solid show, I was wondering where Microsoft would end up. They seem to have acquitted themselves very well. It was probably the best of the three shows.
Microsoft had the luxury of having released the console and were able to relax. All they had to do was show off what they had coming for us. They showed Gears of War which looks like being quite a spiffy title and we also saw a trailer for "the best kept secret", Halo 3. What we were being shown with Halo 3 was rendered with the in-game engine and with Gears it was good to see it being played in front of us rather than have a movie showing.
Alll well and good but the thing that intrigued me the most is that they clearly know where they are strongest. Just like NCL in that respect, they made sure there was good focus there. The Live Anywhere announcement was slightly dry but it shows a great idea. Take one of the most attractive parts of your strategy and spread it. So we are told to expect cross-platform compatibility between games on the 360 and those on a PC (those that support it) and the ability to check out achievements, gamertags and whatnot from all sorts of devices.
It's a very shrewd tactic, a way of consolidating and strengthening just due to the ubiquity of your wares. It makes it tough for others to follow in any space. I'm still in no way convinced with Vista and I doubt I will be making a switch to the OS when released (if current imformation holds) but this is a nice way of trying to get people to accept things and make the switch over.
All in all, it was a balanced show from Microsoft, showing that they also have clear ideas and directions on where to go. It's gone a long way to get people interested in the long term of the 360, the only real niggle that remains is the seeming lack of announcements for the short term. Again, like NCL, I guess we'll need to hear the noise coming from the show floor to see how it holds.
Microsoft had the luxury of having released the console and were able to relax. All they had to do was show off what they had coming for us. They showed Gears of War which looks like being quite a spiffy title and we also saw a trailer for "the best kept secret", Halo 3. What we were being shown with Halo 3 was rendered with the in-game engine and with Gears it was good to see it being played in front of us rather than have a movie showing.
Alll well and good but the thing that intrigued me the most is that they clearly know where they are strongest. Just like NCL in that respect, they made sure there was good focus there. The Live Anywhere announcement was slightly dry but it shows a great idea. Take one of the most attractive parts of your strategy and spread it. So we are told to expect cross-platform compatibility between games on the 360 and those on a PC (those that support it) and the ability to check out achievements, gamertags and whatnot from all sorts of devices.
It's a very shrewd tactic, a way of consolidating and strengthening just due to the ubiquity of your wares. It makes it tough for others to follow in any space. I'm still in no way convinced with Vista and I doubt I will be making a switch to the OS when released (if current imformation holds) but this is a nice way of trying to get people to accept things and make the switch over.
All in all, it was a balanced show from Microsoft, showing that they also have clear ideas and directions on where to go. It's gone a long way to get people interested in the long term of the 360, the only real niggle that remains is the seeming lack of announcements for the short term. Again, like NCL, I guess we'll need to hear the noise coming from the show floor to see how it holds.
Tuesday, May 09, 2006
Making Sense
Right having had my say on Sony's press conference, I tuned in for the live stream of the NCL conference.
Nintendo's conference was kinda hit and miss. There were many montages of people playing on the Wii in amongst some footage of games. Some of the footage was brief but generally it looked good.
Nothing majorly new was given, the was the speaker announcement on the Wii-mote itself and the 24Connect which means your Wii will be connected online at all times, which could prove to be very interesting depending on how it is taken forward and how it is made up.
The most frustrating thing about this conference was that there wasn't much said on what was coming. We're told there are still more announcements regarding the Wii-mote and certainly, after Sony's conference I can see why NCL want to hold their cards close, in case we see them trying to rip-off another idea. Still I would have liked to see a release date and price announced.
Generally, it was quite a lot of the same things peddled again with stats and the idea and motives behind the Wii and DS.
When the games were shown, it's kinda odd seeing them. Zelda Twilight Princess as well as Red Steel. Both look promising but there were a few issues regarding the controls which seemed worrying. There seemed to be a lot of flailing and missing with bows, guns and swords without a lot of craft there. I'm hoping it's down to having to demonstrate the games on a stage that caused the problems rather than it being loose controls to blame.
Saying that, the highlight was possibly the final segment and another game demonstration. The WiiSports game of Tennis. We had Miyamoto, Iwata and Reggie playing a game of Tennis with a competition winner. I think this is what we imagined when we first saw the Wii-mote and what it would be like. We had 4 players on stage, moving and flexing to hit a ball back and forth. It looked like great fun and definitely something that anyone could just pick-up and play.
With this in mind, it could be the two games prior to the Tennis weren't as astounding as they required the controls to do various bits maybe not so instantly recognisable or fun looking. We all know how tennis is played and we all know what to expect so we could somehow translate that into something tangible to measure it against.
I guess we'll need to wait until people are able to get their hands on the games on the floor and see what the controls are like. Not a bad conference but it answered no real questions and probably asked more than I thought. Seems they are really going to keep us hanging on.
Nintendo's conference was kinda hit and miss. There were many montages of people playing on the Wii in amongst some footage of games. Some of the footage was brief but generally it looked good.
Nothing majorly new was given, the was the speaker announcement on the Wii-mote itself and the 24Connect which means your Wii will be connected online at all times, which could prove to be very interesting depending on how it is taken forward and how it is made up.
The most frustrating thing about this conference was that there wasn't much said on what was coming. We're told there are still more announcements regarding the Wii-mote and certainly, after Sony's conference I can see why NCL want to hold their cards close, in case we see them trying to rip-off another idea. Still I would have liked to see a release date and price announced.
Generally, it was quite a lot of the same things peddled again with stats and the idea and motives behind the Wii and DS.
When the games were shown, it's kinda odd seeing them. Zelda Twilight Princess as well as Red Steel. Both look promising but there were a few issues regarding the controls which seemed worrying. There seemed to be a lot of flailing and missing with bows, guns and swords without a lot of craft there. I'm hoping it's down to having to demonstrate the games on a stage that caused the problems rather than it being loose controls to blame.
Saying that, the highlight was possibly the final segment and another game demonstration. The WiiSports game of Tennis. We had Miyamoto, Iwata and Reggie playing a game of Tennis with a competition winner. I think this is what we imagined when we first saw the Wii-mote and what it would be like. We had 4 players on stage, moving and flexing to hit a ball back and forth. It looked like great fun and definitely something that anyone could just pick-up and play.
With this in mind, it could be the two games prior to the Tennis weren't as astounding as they required the controls to do various bits maybe not so instantly recognisable or fun looking. We all know how tennis is played and we all know what to expect so we could somehow translate that into something tangible to measure it against.
I guess we'll need to wait until people are able to get their hands on the games on the floor and see what the controls are like. Not a bad conference but it answered no real questions and probably asked more than I thought. Seems they are really going to keep us hanging on.
Disorder
I've slowly been digesting what was Sony's conference and I'm wondering who they've had a bet with and how drunk they were when they made it. It's as if they set out to one-up Nintendo's "Wii" announcement. All the negative press that got was astounding. It was run everywhere and I guess Sony felt they needed to muscle in.
This conference seems to be unlike Sony press conferences of the past. I see a Sony press conference as a load of hyped up nonsense. We've seen it with the Emotion Engine nonsense and last year we had loads said about how the PS3 will do everything you expect and more besides, such as making you breakfast in bed.
This year, well everyone seems to be very disappointed. They have come away feeling that Sony have completely lost the plot with an underwhelming conference. I've not been a Sony fan and I've long looked at them as being able to hype things up to the extent that people report like mad at how great things will be, despite never ever delivering what they state. This year it seems everyone is seeing things properly for the first time. There is no hype there for people to go nuts with speculation at how great things will be as we've just seen what looks like a company clutching at straws.
So I guess the first thing we'll get to is how Sony have created a "brand new joypad" for their new console. What we have actually is the same sub-standard controller they've used for 10 or so years but with a big button in the middle, akin to the 360's dashboard button. So they took a pinch of Microsoft and then added a dash of Nintendo by bundling motion sensing capabilities. So the Sony that said "we don't do gimmicks" has just gone and added a great big gimmick of Wii-mote capabilities. If you see the thing in motion, it looks a million miles away from NCL's offering with the Wii-mote. It looks clunky and very uncomfortable.
On top of this, they announce two SKUs for the console. Not so bad, Microsoft did this with the 360. Sony have again decided to one-up the negative press that Microsoft got with the so-called "Tard pack". Instead of offering a bare-bones system, Sony shall be offering you a cheaper, less feature packed console. You will miss out on the HDMI port, wifi support (goodbye PSP wireless interactions) and then a 20GB HDD (opposed to the 60GB in the full priced model). If Microsoft got lumbered with having one package called the "Tard pack" I'd hate to see what the Sony pack will be called, considering it's far more botched than Microsoft's offering.
Basically, the main points I've taken from this conference is that Sony, for once, have decided to be straight with us. Just given us the news as it is rather than coating them in hype and marketing puff. However, this year they've really run out of ideas. Whereas they may have had a few interesting things to go with the hype, this year they've not got anything to create a buzz and I'm not sure that this will do anything to help them out like it seems to have done to an extent with the Wii.
Sony seem to have stolen ideas left, right and centre and not added anything to them. They've really gone and taken what have been the best bits of NCL's and Microsoft's machines (the Wii-mote and Live respectively) and diluted them to be left with hardly anything substantial to draw people in. I'm not sure how the other companies will fare but they really must be relishing their chances at creating a big buzz around their consoles now.
Saying this, I am now slightly worried. Sony have the top spot right now and it was thought they'd hold it with the PS3. It did seem they were trying to push some things on earlier but it doesn't seem to be the case now.
If you look at NCL, with the Wii they are trying to do what they did with the DS but in the home console market, expand the market by attracting those who wouldn't play video games. Microsoft has gone in the direction of appealing to harcore gamers and pushing Live. With Live they've really created something very special. So two companies, two ideas which seemingly is trying to attract a larger audience.
Sony right now seem to be stuck in limbo, why it seems as though the PS3 is not only designed to be a games machine but to get Blu-Ray accepted as the format of choice for HD DVDs and for them to push their HDTVs. We've got two companies trying to push games, whereas the other seems to be content to push anything else. The reason why I am scared, is that I hope the two companies that are pushing for some innovations don't get lost and swept up by Sony's half-arsed attempts to muscle in on their visions. That Sony don't somehow again manage to be the biggest company this iteration of consoles without earning that by actually pushing and innovating itself. It'd sure be a sad day, if on the basis of this showing, Sony keeps on top by badly copying other good ideas and excuting them badly.
This conference seems to be unlike Sony press conferences of the past. I see a Sony press conference as a load of hyped up nonsense. We've seen it with the Emotion Engine nonsense and last year we had loads said about how the PS3 will do everything you expect and more besides, such as making you breakfast in bed.
This year, well everyone seems to be very disappointed. They have come away feeling that Sony have completely lost the plot with an underwhelming conference. I've not been a Sony fan and I've long looked at them as being able to hype things up to the extent that people report like mad at how great things will be, despite never ever delivering what they state. This year it seems everyone is seeing things properly for the first time. There is no hype there for people to go nuts with speculation at how great things will be as we've just seen what looks like a company clutching at straws.
So I guess the first thing we'll get to is how Sony have created a "brand new joypad" for their new console. What we have actually is the same sub-standard controller they've used for 10 or so years but with a big button in the middle, akin to the 360's dashboard button. So they took a pinch of Microsoft and then added a dash of Nintendo by bundling motion sensing capabilities. So the Sony that said "we don't do gimmicks" has just gone and added a great big gimmick of Wii-mote capabilities. If you see the thing in motion, it looks a million miles away from NCL's offering with the Wii-mote. It looks clunky and very uncomfortable.
On top of this, they announce two SKUs for the console. Not so bad, Microsoft did this with the 360. Sony have again decided to one-up the negative press that Microsoft got with the so-called "Tard pack". Instead of offering a bare-bones system, Sony shall be offering you a cheaper, less feature packed console. You will miss out on the HDMI port, wifi support (goodbye PSP wireless interactions) and then a 20GB HDD (opposed to the 60GB in the full priced model). If Microsoft got lumbered with having one package called the "Tard pack" I'd hate to see what the Sony pack will be called, considering it's far more botched than Microsoft's offering.
Basically, the main points I've taken from this conference is that Sony, for once, have decided to be straight with us. Just given us the news as it is rather than coating them in hype and marketing puff. However, this year they've really run out of ideas. Whereas they may have had a few interesting things to go with the hype, this year they've not got anything to create a buzz and I'm not sure that this will do anything to help them out like it seems to have done to an extent with the Wii.
Sony seem to have stolen ideas left, right and centre and not added anything to them. They've really gone and taken what have been the best bits of NCL's and Microsoft's machines (the Wii-mote and Live respectively) and diluted them to be left with hardly anything substantial to draw people in. I'm not sure how the other companies will fare but they really must be relishing their chances at creating a big buzz around their consoles now.
Saying this, I am now slightly worried. Sony have the top spot right now and it was thought they'd hold it with the PS3. It did seem they were trying to push some things on earlier but it doesn't seem to be the case now.
If you look at NCL, with the Wii they are trying to do what they did with the DS but in the home console market, expand the market by attracting those who wouldn't play video games. Microsoft has gone in the direction of appealing to harcore gamers and pushing Live. With Live they've really created something very special. So two companies, two ideas which seemingly is trying to attract a larger audience.
Sony right now seem to be stuck in limbo, why it seems as though the PS3 is not only designed to be a games machine but to get Blu-Ray accepted as the format of choice for HD DVDs and for them to push their HDTVs. We've got two companies trying to push games, whereas the other seems to be content to push anything else. The reason why I am scared, is that I hope the two companies that are pushing for some innovations don't get lost and swept up by Sony's half-arsed attempts to muscle in on their visions. That Sony don't somehow again manage to be the biggest company this iteration of consoles without earning that by actually pushing and innovating itself. It'd sure be a sad day, if on the basis of this showing, Sony keeps on top by badly copying other good ideas and excuting them badly.
Friday, March 10, 2006
Black Out Fall Out
Right now we are on the verge of high definition. We are promised a lot to come by everyone who seems to have a thumb in the pie, not least Microsoft and Sony. However, is this a little misplaced?
I've no doubt high definition is great and will mark a step forward but I'm not really complaining at the resolution of my current TV. I don't complain and wish things looked better when watching 24 or the football. Sure they look really nice on HDTV but it's not something I really must have right now, especially when these are among the only few things I can currently enjoy on HDTV.
I think the thing most consumers want is choice and options, as well as having something tangible that they can get good use out of (if that fails hype things up and hope general stupidity kicks in).
When DVDs started out, I was impressed but I held out for quite a long while. The initial batch of DVDs were quite light (feature wise) and awkward. There were no extras and were on double sided discs you had to flip midway during a movie. On top of this, the player cost a hefty sum but the quality leap over VHS was clear.
What personally got me hooked was the added value we seemed to get. Trailers, documentaries, commentaries and other gubbins; it all rounded out to a great package which trumped what VHS could offer. This was some time afterwards, once discs became single sided and people were starting to realise the potential by sticking extras on. This was a time when titles were abundant and the quality of each had improved.
So how does this apply to HD? At the moment, buying a HD television won't do much aside from future proofing me. I've only got a handful of things to look forward to if I do take a plunge. There's the prospect of buying a Sky HD reciever and the Xbox 360.
Going ahead with a Sky HD reciever, I'm looking at 5-6 channels for an extra £9.99 a month. Let's consider the channels, we have Sky One HD (only good for 24 which is on once a week), Sky Movies 9 and 10 HD (quite good), Sky Sports HD (we're looking at a few football matches here) and then I believe the only other channel aside from Box Office pay-per-view stuff is Artsworld HD (wtf?). The Xbox 360 is self explanatory, playing games in HD could be quite cool.
Breaking it down, it's quite a poor selection and hardly that enticing, especially at that price a month. 24 would be nice to watch, as would the movies and the occasional football match. Maybe a few games on the Xbox 360 look cool but it has hardly hit its stride. I'm not sure it requires the HDTV just yet to show off the full extent of the graphical goodness (not that this has bearing on the quality of game but heck I'm ranting on how to make use of your HDTV).
Nothing right now seems to scream "you need a HDTV as it's hella tits". What we needed was for Sky to release a full package of channels all broadcasting in HD. Namely, all the movie and sport channels they have (Sky Movies 1-10, Sky Cinema, Sky Sports 1,2, 3 and Extra). Having Sky One and anything else would only help matters. By offering all the key channels right now, you are effectively saying to people, if you go out and spend money, we'll give you the chance to make the best of it. I want a real incentive to go out and buy now.
As it is, it is prudent to hold back on all HD purchases for a year or two before jumping in, with good reason that you might get burnt. Prices will no doubt tumble, technology will have got better and current wrangles like the HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray debacle should have reached a conclusion (ensuring you don't pick the Beta of this generation or are able to pick up a dual format device). It all seems so messy, so very messy. There's nothing better than buying new technology, gadgets and gizmos but it's no point in having something cool when you cannot get proper use out of it.
To put it simply, you don't buy a Ferrari, only to never drive it above 10mph
I've no doubt high definition is great and will mark a step forward but I'm not really complaining at the resolution of my current TV. I don't complain and wish things looked better when watching 24 or the football. Sure they look really nice on HDTV but it's not something I really must have right now, especially when these are among the only few things I can currently enjoy on HDTV.
I think the thing most consumers want is choice and options, as well as having something tangible that they can get good use out of (if that fails hype things up and hope general stupidity kicks in).
When DVDs started out, I was impressed but I held out for quite a long while. The initial batch of DVDs were quite light (feature wise) and awkward. There were no extras and were on double sided discs you had to flip midway during a movie. On top of this, the player cost a hefty sum but the quality leap over VHS was clear.
What personally got me hooked was the added value we seemed to get. Trailers, documentaries, commentaries and other gubbins; it all rounded out to a great package which trumped what VHS could offer. This was some time afterwards, once discs became single sided and people were starting to realise the potential by sticking extras on. This was a time when titles were abundant and the quality of each had improved.
So how does this apply to HD? At the moment, buying a HD television won't do much aside from future proofing me. I've only got a handful of things to look forward to if I do take a plunge. There's the prospect of buying a Sky HD reciever and the Xbox 360.
Going ahead with a Sky HD reciever, I'm looking at 5-6 channels for an extra £9.99 a month. Let's consider the channels, we have Sky One HD (only good for 24 which is on once a week), Sky Movies 9 and 10 HD (quite good), Sky Sports HD (we're looking at a few football matches here) and then I believe the only other channel aside from Box Office pay-per-view stuff is Artsworld HD (wtf?). The Xbox 360 is self explanatory, playing games in HD could be quite cool.
Breaking it down, it's quite a poor selection and hardly that enticing, especially at that price a month. 24 would be nice to watch, as would the movies and the occasional football match. Maybe a few games on the Xbox 360 look cool but it has hardly hit its stride. I'm not sure it requires the HDTV just yet to show off the full extent of the graphical goodness (not that this has bearing on the quality of game but heck I'm ranting on how to make use of your HDTV).
Nothing right now seems to scream "you need a HDTV as it's hella tits". What we needed was for Sky to release a full package of channels all broadcasting in HD. Namely, all the movie and sport channels they have (Sky Movies 1-10, Sky Cinema, Sky Sports 1,2, 3 and Extra). Having Sky One and anything else would only help matters. By offering all the key channels right now, you are effectively saying to people, if you go out and spend money, we'll give you the chance to make the best of it. I want a real incentive to go out and buy now.
As it is, it is prudent to hold back on all HD purchases for a year or two before jumping in, with good reason that you might get burnt. Prices will no doubt tumble, technology will have got better and current wrangles like the HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray debacle should have reached a conclusion (ensuring you don't pick the Beta of this generation or are able to pick up a dual format device). It all seems so messy, so very messy. There's nothing better than buying new technology, gadgets and gizmos but it's no point in having something cool when you cannot get proper use out of it.
To put it simply, you don't buy a Ferrari, only to never drive it above 10mph
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